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Upgrade ceasuri de bord (english)

29 Mai 2015, 17:28

Întreb acest forum, deoarece este singurul loc unde te pot ajuta.

În primul rând. Iert limba, spaniolă și Romanian'm nu nimic ...

Ei bine, asta.

Puteți trece de la o culoare instrumente cutie roșie ?? Dacă este așa, mai mult sau mai puțin ca și în procesul ??

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Re: Puteți trece de la instrumente de culoare roșu o cutie

29 Mai 2015, 19:15

@mumus, colegul a tradus cu google probabil.
Daca te uiti pe celelalte posturi ale lui, o sa vezi ca sunt in engleza :hi
 
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Re: Puteți trece de la instrumente de culoare roșu o cutie

29 Mai 2015, 20:32

Let's try it in english.. It's meaningless in romanian via google translate. But it sounds funny :)

So.. Let me guess..You want to switch from red cluster to white (facelift)? If so, yes, it can be done.

The easy way, with immo off (you have to check out PN of the ABS / ESP module installed in the car, there's a chance that an old module can't be adapted so it has to be changed to a new generation - MK60EC1, for example)

The hard way, with immo on :) But it takes some skills and some hardware.
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Re: Puteți trece de la instrumente de culoare roșu o cutie

29 Mai 2015, 20:41

Nu am vazut celalalte posturi.
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Re: Puteți trece de la instrumente de culoare roșu o cutie

29 Mai 2015, 22:49

My English is a little better than my Romanian, but even so, as you will see, my English is bad.

I want to change the dashboard (red) of my Seat Toledo to another dashboard in colour

I want the way hard, with inmo. We can go slowly.

The first is obtein my code, no?? Then, that cable is the right to obtain it?? vagtacho 3.1, commander 1.4, commander 5.1 or another

My car is a Seat Toledo 2005 5P DSG, with BT and multifunction steering wheel

A Little of my log...

Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 C HW: 1K0 909 605 C
Component: S3 AIRBAG VW8 013 2100
Revision: 02013000 Serial number: 0033HD02Z1K8
Coding: 0021299
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 2C57E23B8FFEEC7E18B-8079

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME08052414

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME073B5D2FS

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME055F4F5BR

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME051F01662

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 G HW: 1K0 953 549 G
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 021 0050
Coding: 0012042
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3663C05341B2A6AE7EF-8063

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul 005 0060

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 5P0 920 830 A
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 1056
Coding: 0002101
Shop #: WSC 00000 264 09559
VCID: 2C57E23B8FFEEC7E18B-8079

No fault code found.
===================================

I've change:
- module 9, Cent. Elect: 3C8 937 049 E;
- module 19, CAN Gateway: 1K0 907 530 AD
- module 46 Central Conv: 1K0 959 433 CR

I want to change my module 16 for another CH (pending task)


Let's change my dashboard among all !!!

Thx you!!!

PD. Cosmin you are the greatest. Many modifications have come thanks to you
 
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Re: Puteți trece de la instrumente de culoare roșu o cutie

29 Mai 2015, 23:54

Ok, your english is better than your romanian :)

So after all it seems that i got it right, didn't i ? Changing the red cluster with a white one...

First of all, if you don't have the right tools you can't do it yourself. It doesn't work with commander, because the white cluster has a different immo type. Red cluster is immo IV, white is immo IVc ("c" is from "challange"). That means that the PIN code of the immo changes everytime you interrogate the module.

So i suggest to do the operation the "easy way": immo off. It has been done before, maybe you can contact this guy directly (he is from Spain)
(skip directly to 2:50, that's where the cluster part starts, the rest is just bullshit)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3N8RpXt4P4[/youtube]

Even so, the easy way is not that easy. You still need to change the ABS / ESP module in your 2005 Toledo 5P. Because the old one won't communicate with the new cluster. Even the ABS / ESP will work, the ABS / ESP pictograme in the cluster will stay permanently on and the buzzer in the cluster will bing continuously. Bing, bing, bing. It's like when you drive without the seatbelt on, except the bing won't stop. Mindfuck. :)
Wait, that's not it.. When changing the ESP unit, you need to change the connector and rewire it. And in your 2005 Toledo you need to change two of the brake lines (there are different fittments). And you need another bracket for the ESP unit, etc etc


I won't even go into details abot "the hard way" :) Different transponders in keys, some serious hardware and in-depth knowledge. Plus all about the ESP module. Give it up. It's safer. And cheaper, too...

In conclusion, it can be done. But it is expensive. 200- 300 eur for the cluster, 150- 200 eur for the ESP module, around 100 for the misc parts (brake line, brackets, wires, connectors etc). Plus some serious cash for the man doing the swap :)

Stay tuned, although. I'm doing this retrofit :) It's on my list. I'm gathering the parts as we speak.
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Re: Puteți trece de la instrumente de culoare roșu o cutie

30 Mai 2015, 00:19

I am determined to make the change, gradually of course.

Can tell me the correct ABS module that I have to looking for??

And how can I obtein the code of my car??

Do you see this product OK?? http://www.ebay.com/itm/161718864661?it ... 23&vxp=mtr

Thx, Sergio

 
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Re: Puteți trece de la instrumente de culoare roșu o cutie

02 Iun 2015, 22:42

My module 3, ABS is 1K0 907 379 K. I did not tell you before

Have I change it?? Can tell me which i have to looking for??

Thx, Sergio
 
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Re: Upgrade ceasuri de bord (english)

11 Iun 2015, 08:49

Sorry for answering so late...

So.. The product in the link is compatible if you are upgrading the steering wheel as well (to the facelift version).
In order to upgrade to facelift cluster, you need the following items (list is not fully updated)

- first of all you need a new gateway. 1K0 907 530 AD or any version after this. You cand use 7N modules as well.

- cluster adapter . Il looks more or less like this one, for passat (but the pinout is not the same - so don't buy this one. The adapter must be made from scratch) http://www.carsystems.pl/plug-play-adap ... id309.html . If you don't want the adapter, you can modify the existing connector.

- the cluster itself. Check out ebay or other sites (segundamano or whatever).

- ABS / ESP module. The one on the car (rev K) is not compatible. You need a new generation. Any MK60EC1 unit will work. You can use 1K0 907 379 BL, if you are planning on retrofitting PLA system subsequently. Other PN compatible are 1K0 907 379 AT or BE or BJ.

- ABS / ESP module connector. The one on the car is not compatible.

- Brake lines for the front wheels

- Support and bracket for the ABS / ESP unit.

And of course, the skills of a good technician for doing all the work (realocating wires, changing units, brake lines, brake bleeding, coding etc)


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