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xannom
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Localitate: Constanta

Limp mode

12 Dec 2014, 14:36

Salut am un seat leon 2001 1.9 tdi 110 cp.
Dupa o anumita turatie intr-o treapta superioara intra in limp mode..
Am schimbat debitmetrul cu al unui prieten dar la fel se comporta..cand am cumparat masina (am luat-o la mana a 2 acum vreo 3 ani) avea niste modificari pe la mufa de la debitmetru, nu stiu exact ce avea pt ca a fost cumparata din Spania de tata.

Am bagat-o si pe tester acum ceva timp dar nu am avut nici o eroare, era un tester al unui prieten si nu era prea performant.

Si parca nu trage cum ar trebui sa traga cei 110 cai..Sunt din Constanta, daca m-ar putea ajuta cineva cu un log in mers mi-ar fi de mare ajutor, dau si o bere.

Unii zic ca e de la turbina, unii ca e vreo supapa vacuum, cati mecanici atetea pareri..Nici nu vreau sa dau banii la mecanici care merg pe presupus...
 
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puputavi
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Re: Limp mode

12 Dec 2014, 16:49

Niste loguri din mers si o diagnoza facuta de cineva care stie ce face te va lamuri.
Limp mode poate fi din multe cauze, probleme cu turbina, cu actuatorul, cu furtunele de vacum.
Fa intai o diagnoza si de acolo vezi inspre ce te indrepti.
 
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Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 04:25

eu am avut aceeasi problema si inca o mai am de aproape un an. La inceput nu sarea de 120, acum ajunge la 150, dar foarte greu. Problema...sau o banuiala destul de plauzibila...griparea geometriei turbinei. Nu am dat-o jos din lipsa de fonduri. Totusi, astept si eu cu nerabdare un verdict de la tine
Seat leon 1m, 1,9 Tdi, 2000, AHF
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odor4fun
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Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 11:49

Am avut si eu simptomul descris de tine. Am facut o diagnoza si mi-au reesit urmatoarele probleme:
Thursday,03,July,2014,19:14:40:40973
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.0.0
Data version: 20130910


Mileage: 198440km-123304mi Repair Order: 20140703


Chassis Type: 1M - Seat Toledo (2000 > 2004)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 35 36 37 46 56

Mileage: 198440km/123304miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 038 906 012 AT
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 2815
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 39560
VCID: 62CB4C0AEEEFBC0EE27-4B36

1 Fault Found:
17965 - Charge Pressure Control
P1557 - 35-10 - Positive Deviation - Intermittent
Readiness: N/A

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001
Coding: 03304
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 3E73D87A3AD7B8EEA6F-4B36

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1M0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 1M0 820 043 C
Component: 1M-CLIMATRONIC X0604
Coding: 00043
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 224B0C0AAE6FFC0EA27-25A0

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
Component: 1G AIRBAG VW5 0004
Coding: 12615
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 3561C7560FE17BB6775-4B50

2 Faults Found:
01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199)
32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-10 - - - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1M0-920-xx2-17.lbl
Part No: 1M0 920 821 B
Component: S5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V02
Coding: 05112
Shop #: WSC 11111
VCID: 2643101AC247002ECEF-5198

Subsystem 1 - Part No: IMMO
Component: IDENTNR: SEZ7Z0Y0603555
IMMO-IDENTNR: SEZ7Z0Y0603555

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: F0EFB642B0039E9EE43-517A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1J0 959 799 AH
Component: 8N Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
Coding: 04097
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 8407EA9294BB923E30B-4B36

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1J0959801F
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J0959802G
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. BF0002B

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1J4959811C
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. HL0002r

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1J4959812C
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. HR0002r

3 Faults Found:
00953 - Interior Light Time limit
25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
00913 - Window Regulator Switch; Front Right Driver (E81)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5)
35-00 - -

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 1M0 035 186 C
Component: Radio 0001
Coding: 00401
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 285F1E22C853165EFC3-4BB4

No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------------------------------



Dupa cateva drumuri mai lungi in care am turat bine motorul, si-a revenit. N-am refacut logul (din lipsa de timp) insa totul pare sa fie ok.
Trage bine, de la turatii joase si nu mai intra in limitare. Presupun ca problema provine de la blocarea geometria variabile a turbinei, provocata de anumite depuneri.
Si consumul e ok, media intre 5,8 - 6,2
 
odor4fun
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Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 11:57

17965/P1557/005463 - Charge Pressure Control: Positive Deviation
 
odor4fun
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Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 12:05

Possible Causes
Boost Pressure too High

Hoses,Pipes incorrect connected, disconnected, blocked or leaking
Charger Pressure Control defective
VNT (variable nozzle turbo): nozzles stuck
Solenoid Valve for Boost Pressure Control (N75) defective
 
xannom
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Membru din: 12 Dec 2014, 12:56
Localitate: Constanta

Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 14:48

I-am dat si in pistoane dar degeaba..Cel mai probabil asta e, geometria variabila, trebuie sa ma duc la o diagnoza ca vad ca cu log-ul in mers nu ma ajuta nimeni :drive

 
Alex.T
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Membru din: 13 Mai 2012, 22:26
Localitate: Pitesti

Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 14:58

Verifica supapa de vacuum daca lucreaza bine. Cel mai probabil acolo este problema.
Daca lucreaza bine verifica tot traseul pana la pompa de vacuum. Aveam aceeasi problema si dupa ce am schimbat supapa de vacuum s-a rezolvat tot.
 
xannom
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Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 15:41

Am verificat, mi se pare ca agata, trebuie sa mearga relativ usor si fara sa agate deloc banuiesc, nu?

Merge greut spre greu si am impresia ca si agata...Sa vad cum fac sa o desfac si incerc si asa, o sa revin.
Multumesc frumos
 
Alex.T
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Localitate: Pitesti

Re: Limp mode

13 Dec 2014, 18:37

Daca nu te pricepi nu umbla acolo pentru ca poti sa faci mai rau.
Mergi intr-un service mai bine.
 
xannom
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Re: Limp mode

14 Dec 2014, 17:34

O sa merg saptamana asta la service..sa vedem ce zic baietii..
Mersi inca odata pt ajutor
 
odor4fun
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Re: Limp mode

26 Dec 2014, 18:42

Nu stiu daca ai rezolvat problemele de motor, insa inainte sa demontezi din partile componente, incearca sa cureti cu un spray degripant tija actuatorului care actioneaza geometria variabila a turbinei. Acumuleaza mizerie si acolo ar putea fi problema.
 
odor4fun
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Re: Limp mode

11 Ian 2015, 10:24

Nici o postare ... problema rezolvata sau amanata ??
Uite un log in mers, inainte de a rezolva problema (cu rosu sunt evidentiate valorile prea mari ale presiunii de turboalimentare, fata de cele cerute), de la 3500 rpm intra in limpmode.
(am curatat tija actuatorului care actioneaza geometria turbinei si rulat in regim de sarcina maxima si turatie maxima.
Ieri am avut ceva timp, am refacut logul in mers ... no limp mode !!. Turat chiar pana la 5000rpm, valorile de supraalimentare erau bune.
Imagine
 
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Re: Limp mode

11 Ian 2015, 10:38

Saturday,10,January,2015,11:42:38:40973
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.0.0
Data version: 20130910


VIN: VSSZZZ1MZ1B012080 License Plate:
Mileage: 208080km-129294mi Repair Order: 10 01 2015


Chassis Type: 1M - Seat Toledo (2000 > 2004)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 35 36 37 46 56

Mileage: 208080km/129294miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 038 906 012 AT
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG 2815
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 39560
VCID: 62CB4C0AEEEFBC0EE27-4B36

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1J0 907 379 P
Component: ABS 20 IE CAN 0001
Coding: 03304
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 3E73D87A3AD7B8EEA6F-4B50

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1M0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 1M0 820 043 C
Component: 1M-CLIMATRONIC X0604
Coding: 00043
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 224B0C0AAE6FFC0EA27-25A0

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
Component: 1G AIRBAG VW5 0004
Coding: 12615
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 3561C7560FE17BB6775-4B36

3 Faults Found:
01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199)
32-10 - Resistance Too High - Intermittent
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-10 - - - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1M0-920-xx2-17.lbl
Part No: 1M0 920 821 B
Component: S5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V02
Coding: 05112
Shop #: WSC 11111
VCID: 2643101AC247002ECEF-517A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: IMMO
Component: IDENTNR: SEZ7Z0Y0603555
IMMO-IDENTNR: SEZ7Z0Y0603555

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: F0EFB642B0039E9EE43-5198

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1J0 959 799 AH
Component: 8N Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
Coding: 04097
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 8407EA9294BB923E30B-4B36

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1J0959801F
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1J0959802G
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. BF0002r

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1J4959811C
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. HL0002r

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1J4959812C
Component: 8N Tõrsteuerger. HR0002H

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 1M0 035 186 C
Component: Radio 0001
Coding: 00401
Shop #: WSC 00046
VCID: 285F1E22C853165EFC3-4BB4

No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------------------------------


Mai apar doar erorile de airbag, nerezolvate inca (airbag lateral sofer si la modulul de airbag -- trebuie rescris softul sau inlocuit modulul in sine.)
 
xannom
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Re: Limp mode

11 Mar 2015, 17:08

nu am rezolvat problema, se demonteaza greu?

M-as baga eu dar am vazut ca nu prea e pozitie..

Cine este conectat

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