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25 Mai 2012, 11:26

deci nu functioneaza ca restul alarmelor.. o sa las un geam deschis si o sa o activez sa vedem cum face. ms de info
 
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Re: Retrofits & upgrades pt. Seat, recodari si adaptari VCDS

25 Mai 2012, 20:55

Scuze, am inteles eu gresit. Daca ai alarma din fabrica, lasa geamul deschis, incuie masina si baga mana inauntru. Ar trebui sa urle.
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27 Mai 2012, 21:46

am facut proba.. merge perfect.. mai putin cu deelay-ul de 15 secunde pana incepe sa sune dupa ce o desfac cu cheia :)
 
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Re: Retrofits & upgrades pt. Seat, recodari si adaptari VCDS

28 Mai 2012, 10:40

Salut. E prima data cand postez ceva pe acest site. Vreau ca in zilele urmatoare sa-mi cumpar o interfata Vag Com (ca m-am saturat sa tot platesc si sa stau dupa altii ba ca n-au timp, ba sa ma programeze...) si ma gandeam ca poate imi puteti da niste sfaturi utile.
Eu am un Seat Toledo 2001 1.6 16V si de cateva zile am aprinsi in bord martorii de ABS si TCS. Vreau sa-mi iau Vag Com versiunea 11 (ultima versiune, merge cu toate versiunile VAG 11.10, VAG 11.8, VAG 11.3, VAG 11.2, VAG 10.6.0, VAG 10.6.2, VAG 10.6.3, VAG 10.6.4, VAG 908,etc. Nu va mai apare mesajul cu OUT OF DATE, este programul FULL activat) - asta e descrierea produsului.
Am inteles ca pe CD is mai multe versiuni de soft, asa ca ce versiune de soft ar trebui sa instalez pentru masina mea?
Si mi-au mai spus cei de la care vreau sa cumpar ca cica nu trebuie sa folosesc programul odata cu internetul ca sa nu-mi pierd licenta.
Acuma ma gandesc poate ca e si dificil de instalat.
Interfata + CD-ul m-ar costa 120 lei.
Mersi!
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Re: Retrofits & upgrades pt. Seat, recodari si adaptari VCDS

28 Mai 2012, 13:15

Bine ai venit in Club Seat!

Din pacate discutiile despre clone VCDS si alte softuri nelicentiate nu isi au rostul pe un forum public. Trateaza aspectul despre instalare, versiuni etc. cu cel care vinde asa ceva. O sa iti dea toate informatiile de care ai nevoie (sau ar trebui sa ti le dea).

Multumesc de intelegere.
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29 Mai 2012, 13:27

Daca iau un can-gateway codul 7N0907530H merge sa il inlocuiesc pe al meu care este 1K0907530P(fw0191)? pe ross wiki nu apare asta cu codul nou
 
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29 Mai 2012, 13:46

Merge.
Rev. N merge sigur, am testat personal. Mai mult ca sigur merge si H.

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29 Mai 2012, 14:18

intreb ca este usor schimbat codul si de-asta.. multumesc inca odata pt sfat
 
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Re: Retrofits & upgrades pt. Seat, recodari si adaptari VCDS

30 Mai 2012, 13:50

Cosmin scrie:
Boditza, pe seatleon.eu parca am gasit, insa trebuie sa ai cont si mimin 50 de posturi sa vezi sectiunea respectiva.

Mihai, sunt LHD.
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no am comandat setul sper sa fie ok ca oricum la dealaer in romania cereau 430ron pe ele :shock:
o sa revin cu o parere cand ajung
tot timpul am "admirat" oamenii mici cu ego-uri mari...grav e cand vaca care s-a suit in copac uita de unde a plecat.
 
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30 Mai 2012, 13:52

Sunt ok, o sa vezi. Pt. masina ta le-ai luat?
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30 Mai 2012, 17:06

clar...o sa-i dublez valoarea in ritmul asta :))
tot timpul am "admirat" oamenii mici cu ego-uri mari...grav e cand vaca care s-a suit in copac uita de unde a plecat.
 
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01 Iun 2012, 14:13

Salut Cosmin. Te deranjez si eu cu o intrebare despre o eroare aparuta pe vag-com in urma unui test. Cam la ce se refera eroarea si ce e de facut?
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail
Part No: 036 906 034 DS
Component: MARELLI 4MV 4568
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 10164
VCID: 66C7B2AB2AA7
VSSZZZ1MZ4R046074 SEZ7Z0C2244531

1 Fault Found:
16555 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1: System Too Lean
P0171 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000
B 123 RHK

SEAT LEON 1.6 16v 105 cai
HONDA Hornet B 599 TOY

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Re: Retrofits & upgrades pt. Seat, recodari si adaptari VCDS

05 Iun 2012, 19:08

Salut Cosmin, Indraznesc sa-ti pun o intrebare, chair daca sunt nou nout pe aici.Am luat pentru masina din semnatura, Leon 1P 2008/ 1.6 aspirat, maneta care contine si comanda pentru CB, nu avea in dotarea standard....intrebarea este, imi pot activa aceasta optiune?

Multumesc anticipat.
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Re: Retrofits & upgrades pt. Seat, recodari si adaptari VCDS

05 Iun 2012, 19:15

RoshKtu scrie:
1 Fault Found:
16555 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1: System Too Lean
P0171 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000


Nu e nimic grav daca nu e permanenta. Daca e permanenta, problema e la MAF / admisie sau alte compenente / ansamble ce tin de alimentare.
Poti citi materialul de mai jos, sa iti faci o idee despre amestecul aer / combustibil.

Credits to Andy - Ross Tech

"Understanding Fuel Trim

Some of the most common Fault Codes (DTC's) pertain to fuel trim (rich mixture, lean mixture, etc.) Here is an explanation of fuel trim and what it does for us. The ECU controls Air/Fuel mixture in order to maintain power, efficiency, and emissions. A/F is expressed as either a ratio (14.7:1 for example) or as a Lambda value. With iso-octane ("ideal" gasoline), Lambda of 1.0 is equal to 14.7:1 A/F. This is known as "Stoichiometric", a condition where there is a perfect balance between oxygen molecules and the various hydrogen and carbon based molecules in petroleum. With the oxygenated gasoline that most of us use, actual A/F ratio of 15:1 is closer to stoichiometric.If Lambda is greater than 1.0, then there is a surplus of air and the engine is running lean. If Lambda is less than 1.0, then there is a surplus of fuel and the engine is running rich. It should be noted that the ratios are mass-based, not volume-based.

So, why don't we always run at 1.0 all the time? Well, we do MOST of the time. At cruise and idle, mixture is held tightly to 1.0 to keep the catalytic convertor at optimal efficiency, so the emissions are minimized. However, when we need acceleration, the mixture gets richer. Why? Maximum power is made between 0.85 to 0.95 Lambda (12.5 to 14.0 A/F with iso-octane). So, under acceleration, mixtures get richer. Sometimes you want to get even richer under acceleration to keep detonation (pre-ignition of the mixture from excess cylinder temperatures) away. The 1.8T has a relatively high compression ratio for a turbocharged engine, which especially under lots of boost, is very succeptible to detonation).

So, now that we know that the ECU wants to be able to control the A/F ratio. It has a prescribed set of values (maps) for a given RPM, Load, etc. So, the ECU tells the injectors to pulse for exactly XX.X milliseconds and that SHOULD get us the proper A/F ratio that we want. Well, if you tell an employee to go do something, you want to make sure they actually did it, right? The ECU has some snitches (the front O2 sensor and the MAF, for the most part) that will report back whether or not the desired mixture has been attained. The rear O2 sensor is used mostly to monitor the condition of the catalytic convertor, although in some applications it also contributes to trim information.

Based on feedback from the snitches, the ECU learns to apply a correction factor to its commands to the fuel injectors. If you know that your employees take longer than the standard allotted time to do a specified job, you will need to adjust for that in your planning (injectors are in a union, so it is tough to fire them ). The learned values go between the maps in the ECU's Flash ROM (the "chip") and the signal to the fuel injectors. These learned compensations are known as "trim". So, when you see "trim", it means "compensation".

"Add" means additive trim, which is addressing an imbalance at idle. When the ECU is using additive trim, it is telling the injectors to stay open a fixed amount longer or shorter. The malfunction (e.g. vacuum leak) becomes less significant as RPM increase. For additive adaptation values, the injection timing is changed by a fixed amount. This value is not dependent on the basic injection timing.

"Mult" mean multiplicative trim, which is addressing an imbalance at all engine speeds. The malfunction (e.g. clogged injector) becomes more severe at increased RPM. For multiplicative adaptation values, there is a percentage change in injection timing. This change is dependent on the basic injection timing.

You can check your current state of trim by using VAG-COM or equivalent to look in Group 032 (in many modern ECU's, consult your Factory Repair Manual for the specific group for your particular vehicle) in your engine measuring blocks. The first two fields will have percentages. The first field tells the fuel trim at idle (Additive). The second field tells the fuel trim at elevated engine speeds (Multiplicative). Negative values indicate that the engine is running too rich and oxygen sensor control is therefore making it more lean by reducing the amount of time that the injectors are open. Positive values indicate that the engine is running too lean and oxygen sensor control is therefore making it richer by increasing the amount of time that the injectors are open.

It is totally normal for both the first and second fields to be something other than zero. In fact, zeros IN BOTH FIELDS indicates that either you just cleared codes (which will reset fuel trim values) or something isn't working properly. If values get too far away from zero, it will cause a DTC (fault code) and can set off the MIL (commonly referred to as the Check Engine Light, or CEL). Specifications for normal operation are usually somewhere near +/- 10%.

In general, an out-of-spec value in the first field (Additive) indicates a vacuum leak since it is mostly present at idle, when vacuum is highest. An out-of-spec value in the second field (Multiplicative) indicates a fault at higher RPM, and may point to a faulty MAF.

Here's a good sanity check for the status of your MAF. Do a full-throttle run all the way to redline in a single gear (second works fine). Group 002 usually shows air mass in g/s (in many modern ECU's, consult your Factory Repair Manual for the specific group for your particular vehicle). Your peak airflow should be roughly 0.80 times your horsepower if you are close to sea level. So, if you have a stock 150 hp 1.8T, expect around 120 g/s. If you see significantly less than that, you MAF may be on the way out. Also note that airflow will be markedly different at higher altitudes due to reduced ambient air pressure, especially with naturally aspirated engines that do not have forced induction to overcome that deficiency. This still works if you are chipped, but "race" programs may make more power through timing, rather than airflow. Therefore, take all readings with a grain of salt. "
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Re: Retrofits & upgrades pt. Seat, recodari si adaptari VCDS

05 Iun 2012, 19:18

pakpen scrie:
Am luat pentru masina din semnatura, Leon 1P 2008/ 1.6 aspirat, maneta care contine si comanda pentru CB, nu avea in dotarea standard....intrebarea este, imi pot activa aceasta optiune? Multumesc anticipat.


Da, se poate.
Trebuie sa inlocuiesti si ceasurile de bord cu unele care suporta afisaj informatii despre consum si electronica de coloana de directie. Apoi recodare cu VCDS si adaptare immo. Toata treaba dureaza maxim 2 ore jumate.
Te pot ajuta eu cu piesele respective.
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