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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

15 Mai 2014, 18:54

Le luam pe rand.
- pt eroarea la injector te uiti pe engine- measuring blocks - grupul 13 la relanti cu motorul cald, sa vezi cum stai.
- pt Egr nu vad erori, poti vedea in measuring blocks daca e ok. Nu as schimba fara o baza reala
- despre celelalte daca s-au sters iti faci probleme mai tarziu
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

15 Mai 2014, 22:27

Ok Gamer, si ce ar trebui sa vad la grupul 13? ce valori sunt ok sau cum? ca aici m-ai pierdut...
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

16 Mai 2014, 00:49

salveaza valorile afisate pe fiecare injector si punele aici. in mod normal ce e peste +-0.5 arata o problema
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

16 Mai 2014, 13:19

am sa fac asta , sper cat mai curand :hi
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

18 Mai 2014, 12:31

Cand incep sa apara problemele tot apar. Ieri dimineata am pornit masina sa merg la lucru iar dupa cateva sute de metrii parcursi s-a auzit un zgomot pe sub masina , ca si cum as fi agatat o sarma ceva...Am oprit imediat m-am uitat pe sub masina , nimica! Am pornit din nou si se auzea ca si cum o sarma ar fi intrat pe la roata , ce mai un scartait de tabla,srma fier ceva care suna asurzitot si care m-a facut sa merg tot cu a2-a pana la munca...ce ii drept doar cativa km---. Sunetul acesta se aude si cand masina merge scoasa din viteza. M-am apucat la lucru dupa program sa dau scutu jos si sa ma uit pe sub ea crezand ca sunetul vine de la motor.Nimik, totul pare in regula akolo. Un coleg mi-a zis ca se prea poate ca sa fie zgomotul acela ingrozitot de la roata din spate. Acuma eu nu stiu cand tragi frana de mana ce se intampla ...Actioneaza pastilele de frana sau ii pe butucu ala din roata. Dar totusi cred ca ii inauntru si nu pe pastile. Urmeaza ca luni sa desfac roata sa vad daca ii de akolo . Ceva idei? A mai patit careva? Frana de mana tine doar cand o ridic la max... Hmmm
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

19 Mai 2014, 18:08

Mi s-a aprins din nou becul, asta dupa ce am curatat egr-u dar acuma parca nu se mai aude rotund motorul :cry: si parca simt ceva vibratii la relanti , dar asa sporadic.Sper totusi in ciuda aparentelor si a erorii de injector sa nu fie chiar el. POate o curatare cu ceva aditiv sau ... :cry pt ca aici in Belgia toate sunt scumpe si cred ca o sa ma ingroape astia , atata bani sa imi ceara.Si ca sa schimb injectorul e nu am habar si nu as lasa pe orisicine.Mentionez ca lucrez la un atelier de dezmembrari unde se mai si repara masini frantuzesti (numai fulgonete si rulote) si chiar nu as lasa mecanicii de akolo sa se bage ca parca lucra prea brutal :D Eu doar cu dezmembrarile :))) unde nu merge cu cheia dau cu flexu sau cu ciocanu...
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

22 Mai 2014, 19:46

Imagine

Grupul 13 si grupul 18
Vreau sa mentionez ca nu de fiecare data masina merge rau. Cand merge rau se aprinde becu ...iar mai tarziu se stinge si isi revine, adica dupa ce o pornesc din nou.

Din nou primul test, dupa ce a mers masina rau a iesit asa:
VCDS Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator VCDS Version: Release 908.0 Data version: 20090911 www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name: Workshop Code: 000 00000
Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:00:11:13314
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate: Mileage: 194620km-120931mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: XXX Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 Mileage: 194620km/120931miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000 01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010 03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000 08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000 09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000 15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000 16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000 17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000 25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000 42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000 44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000 46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000 56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000 62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000 72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:00:11:13314 Page 2
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LL HW: 03G 906 021 LL Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 9850 Revision: --H02--- Serial number: SEZ7Z0F3502384 Coding: 0050072 Shop #: WSC 00011 781 93875
2 Faults Found: 004707 - PD Unit Injector: Cylinder 2 (N241): Implausible Signal P1263 - 000 - - Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01110000 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 7 Mileage: 194378 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2000.00.00 Time: 09:45:50
Freeze Frame: RPM: 798 /min Speed: 0.0 km/h Load: 0.0 % Voltage: 13.98 V Inj. Quantity: 0.26 mg/str Temperature: 80.1°C (no units): 0.0
012546 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157): No Signal P3102 - 000 - - - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100000 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame: RPM: 0 /min Speed: 0.0 km/h Load: 0.0 % Voltage: 12.39 V Bin. Bits: 00101100 Torque: 0.0 Nm Torque: 351.4 Nm
Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0
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VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:00:11:13314 Page 3
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101 Revision: 00H11001 Coding: 0006786 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl Part No: 1P0 907 044 Component: ClimatronicPQ35 008 0303 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002 Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000004117475 Coding: A1880F2F00041000001D00000000000000017F075C Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
Part No: 1P0 955 119 A Component: Wischer SE350 012 0403 Coding: 00056272 Shop #: WSC 06402
No fault code found.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 H HW: 3C0 909 605 H Component: R3 AIRBAG VW8 027 2521 Revision: 09027000 Serial number: 003A1PA2FZBQ Coding: 0021043 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:00:11:13314 Page 4
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AG HW: 1K0 953 549 AG Component: J0527 634 0070 Coding: 0002042 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl Part No: 1P0 920 823 F Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0422 Coding: 0002101 Shop #: WSC 09034 843 13691
No fault code found.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H HW: 1K0 907 951 Component: J533__Gateway H12 0150 Coding: 3D3F034007000202 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No Faults Found or DTCs not supported by controller or a communication error occurred
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl Part No: 1P0 920 823 F Component: IMMO VO3 0422 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 G HW: 1K0 959 793 M Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1129 Revision: 31008001 Serial number: 00000026969121 Coding: 0000176 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
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VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:00:11:13314 Page 5
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl Part No: 1K1 909 144 L Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.077 H07 1806 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0202 Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 198000005283CC7F00060F0F60084F86107C80 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
Part No: 1P0 951 171 Component: Innenraumueberw.010 4971 Coding: 00000000 Shop #: WSC 06402
Part No: 1K0 951 605 C Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Component: NGS n.mounted
2 Faults Found: 01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100100 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 5 Reset counter: 99 Time Indication: 0
00896 - Trunk Lock Unit (F256) 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00101000 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 96 Mileage: 194545 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2000.00.00 Time: 09:58:50
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VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:00:11:13314 Page 6
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 G HW: 1K0 959 792 M Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1123 Revision: 11006001 Serial number: 00000050768516 Coding: 0000176 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl Part No: 1P1 035 186 B Component: Radio BVX 0006 Coding: 0040424 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 N HW: 1K0 959 795 H Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 1105 Revision: 11005001 Serial number: 00000000052818 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 N HW: 1K0 959 794 H Component: J389 TUER-SG HR 1105 Revision: 11005001 Serial number: 00000000020788 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
No fault code found.
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Si al 2-lea dupa ce am sters DTC din amandoua parti:

VCDS Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator VCDS Version: Release 908.0 Data version: 20090911 www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name: Workshop Code: 000 00000
Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:13:14:13314
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate: Mileage: 194620km-120931mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 1K0 Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 Mileage: 194620km/120931miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000 01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010 03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000 08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000 09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000 15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000 16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000 17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000 25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000 42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000 44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000 46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000 52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000 56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000 62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000 72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Freeze Frame: RPM: 798 /min Speed: 0.0 km/h Load: 0.0 % Voltage: 13.83 V Inj. Quantity: 2.61 mg/str Temperature: 79.2°C (no units): 0.0
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
No fault code found.
No fault code found.

VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:13:14:13314 Page 2
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl Part No SW: 03G 906 021 LL HW: 03G 906 021 LL Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG 9850 Revision: --H02--- Serial number: SEZ7Z0F3502384 Coding: 0050072 Shop #: WSC 00011 781 93875
1 Fault Found: 004707 - PD Unit Injector: Cylinder 2 (N241): Implausible Signal P1263 - 000 - - Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01110000 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Mileage: 194629 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2000.00.00 Time: 11:05:09
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101 Revision: 00H11001 Coding: 0006786 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl Part No: 1P0 907 044 Component: ClimatronicPQ35 008 0303 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Part No: 1P0 955 119 A Component: Wischer SE350 012 0403 Coding: 00056272 Shop #: WSC 06402
No fault code found.
No fault code found.
Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
No fault code found.

VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:13:14:13314 Page 3
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002 Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000004117475 Coding: A1880F2F00041000001D00000000000000017F075C Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3C0-909-605.lbl Part No SW: 3C0 909 605 H HW: 3C0 909 605 H Component: R3 AIRBAG VW8 027 2521 Revision: 09027000 Serial number: 003A1PA2FZBQ Coding: 0021043 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AG HW: 1K0 953 549 AG Component: J0527 634 0070 Coding: 0002042 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl Part No: 1P0 920 823 F Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0422 Coding: 0002101 Shop #: WSC 09034 843 13691
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No fault code found.
No fault code found.
No fault code found.
No fault code found.

VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:13:14:13314 Page 4
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H HW: 1K0 907 951 Component: J533__Gateway H12 0150 Revision: H12 Serial number: 3100106502810C Coding: 3D3F034007000202 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl Part No: 1P0 920 823 F Component: IMMO VO3 0422 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 G HW: 1K0 959 793 M Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1129 Revision: 31008001 Serial number: 00000026969121 Coding: 0000176 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl Part No: 1K1 909 144 L Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.077 H07 1806 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Part No: 1P0 951 171 Component: Innenraumueberw.010 4971 Coding: 00000000 Shop #: WSC 06402
Component: NGS n.mounted
No fault code found.
No fault code found.
No fault code found.
No fault code found.

VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:13:14:13314 Page 5
Part No: 1K0 951 605 C Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0202 Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 198000005283CC7F00060F0F60084F86107C80 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 G HW: 1K0 959 792 M Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1123 Revision: 11006001 Serial number: 00000050768516 Coding: 0000176 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl Part No: 1P1 035 186 B Component: Radio BVX 0006 Coding: 0040424 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 N HW: 1K0 959 795 H Component: J388 TUER-SG HL 1105 Revision: 11005001 Serial number: 00000000052818 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

No fault code found.

VCDS Self-Diagnosis Log Thursday,22,May,2014,11:13:14:13314 Page 6
VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ7R005371 License Plate:
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 N HW: 1K0 959 794 H Component: J389 TUER-SG HR 1105 Revision: 11005001 Serial number: 00000000020788 Coding: 0000144 Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

25 Mai 2014, 21:16

17673/P1266/004709 - PD Unit Injector: Cylinder 2 (N241): Implausible Signal

Possible Symptoms

Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) ON
Reduced Power Output

Possible Causes

Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to PD Unit Injector: Cylinder 2 (N241) faulty
PD Unit Injector: Cylinder 2 (N241) faulty
Camshaft worn out / faulty

Possible Solutions

Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to PD Unit Injector: Cylinder 2 (N241)
Check/Replace PD Unit Injector: Cylinder 2 (N241)
Check Camshaft for Signs of wear

Special Notes

Injectors on TDI PD/PPD Engines are not designed to run Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO) or Straight Vegetable Oil (SVO) as well as anything above 5% Biodiesel Content. Running these Types of Fuels can Damage the Injectors. Please Refer to the Owners Manual and/or Factory Repair Manual for a list of appropriate Fuel Types.
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

25 Mai 2014, 21:20

Mai citisem despre probleme cu cablajul la injectoare la BKD. Poate ai noroc si poti rezolva doar prin strangerea mufelor (trebuie dat jos capacul chiuloasei). Daca ai ghinion e picat injectorul... Sunt bancuri de proba unde se verifica dar in belgia mai greu, nu te pot ajuta.
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

25 Mai 2014, 21:27

A deschis topic separat aici: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=18225&p=360778#p360778
 
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Re: cred ca e vorba despre EGR

26 Mai 2014, 10:13

Ms pentru raspunsuri! Am sa incerc sa il inlocuiesc totusi ... mai ramane de vazut cum si unde :?

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